Who's who
The people who actually answer questions in this group, in their own introductions.
Aqif
MPP CS 25/26 · Student Representative Council"Welcome to the CS USM family, where crazy is the norm and where dreams are made... We're all here to help, so if you need anything, we're just one text message away." Also covers the safety/security portfolio — "Saya sebagai MPP Keselamatan perlu cakap 'tidak boleh.'"
Yikkai
President, Computer Science Society"Harlooo guyss, I'm Yik Kai... yall can start making friends and chatting in this group, it's not that strict here, we're all chill one."
Duang Cinda
Year 2 CS senior · CS SocietyThe group's main admin and announcement-poster. "Enjoy your sleep now before CS life kicks in."
Steven
Year 2 CS senior · international studentSelf-described "professional bising person." Good for food, hardware and campus-facility questions, hidden under the jokes. "If u notice my phone number code a bit different, yes i'm an international student."
Wan Wei
Senior (well into the degree — jokes he's "year 1 sem 5")Blunt, deadpan takes on dorm food, showers, and why orientation is more useful than it sounds.
Kai Yan
Computer Science Society"As CS students, don't let the stereotype fool you anymore. We don't code all the time. We cook je."
MJ (Wong Min Jian)
Director, Creative Department · CS SocietyHandles design/branding for CSS, and fields diploma-to-degree credit exemption questions.
Wei Chuen (@imlwchuen)
Year 3 Software Engineering · ex-CSS Creative DeptNot officially "staff," but the single most detailed and consistent answerer in the whole chat — orientation, dress code, devices, course structure, all of it.
Balqis
CS SocietySteps in for orientation-week logistics — e.g. what to do if you have an outside commitment during MSL.
Laptop buying guide
Triggered by one freshie asking about a RM4,000 gaming laptop — turned into the most detailed thread in the whole chat.
- 16GB RAM is treated as non-negotiable; 32GB is called overkill for the budget-conscious.
- CPU: 11th or 12th-gen Intel is fine, 12th is noticeably better and 11th is getting hard to find secondhand. Ryzen is the efficiency pick if you want to "nerd about" battery life.
- A dedicated GPU is only worth it if you're doing AI/ML work — otherwise skip it and get a lighter, longer-battery "office" laptop instead of a gaming one.
- Around RM4,500 reportedly gets a Ryzen 9 + RTX 4070-class machine if you do want to game.
- Secondhand is fine — check the specs, condition, WiFi card, trackpad and ports before buying.
- A Mac is enough for the Computer Infrastructure course; some students run both Mac and Windows. Old laptops get a second life running Linux (Fedora mentioned).
- Gaming laptops generally mean 2–3 hours of battery away from a plug, and they run hot.
Read the actual thread (25 Aug)
hello seniors, I want to asked that is this specs a must for the intelligent computing course? And any recommendations around RM4000 gaming laptop model for me? Thank you🫣
U can get r9 + 4070 with rm4500 😊
for those who are really tight on budget, dont need that 32Gb RAM. It would cost your soul. Just 16Gb is enuff
if u dont wanna think, any entry level gaming laptop is already good. But u have to carry around a whole 2kg laptop and a brick charger because the battery wont last long in back-to-back classes
My suggestion: any 11th gen or 12th gen cpu okay dyy — 16Gb RAM MUSTTT — space dont care — GPU dont really need (if ur not in AI). get a AMD ryzen cpu if u wanna nerd about performance efficiency. This spec will get u to FYP and end of degree (source: trust me bro)
u dont need a gaming laptop. can get a decent office laptop for easy mobility and long battery life
a bit correction, 12th is much more better than 11th. And u hardly find 11th gen anymore
dont overspend guys, the economy is not really doing well for us
is it okey to buy secondhand laptop?
Aslong the specs are good and condition it's fine. Just be careful with the sellers, check the other stuff too like wifi card etc, track pad, port condition.
guys we are called cs cause we are cheap students 🫰
everyone, check the cs announcement ya. im doing a quick survey to see if yall have any problems, especially regarding laptops.
I know not all of us can afford high end laptops and might need to live on the edge to survive, thats okay. We're here to help. You can ask around on what how to get cheap and reliable laptops for ur studies. just let us know ya
You looking for new or used laptop? I work at a computer store maybe can help out
If u want gaming laptop, battery life is almost zero hahahhahah
Most of the time performance is inversely proportional to battery life🌾
so a mac is enough for computer infrastructure right?
Yes, i am computing infrastructure and i use a mac
unless you have a Mac, all gaming laptops will have severe battery drain, you usually get atleast 2-3 hours of continuous use without plugged in. And imense heat output.
there are students who have a Mac and windows... benefits of both worlds. But atleast macOS is pretty.
Me who is dailydriving Linux 🥲. Need a bit computer knowledge in order to use linux tho — running Fedora.
Classes & credits
What a semester actually looks like, versus matriculation.
- Less packed than matriculation — a mix of lectures, tutorials and labs, though certain days can be hectic.
- Lecture times are fixed for everyone. Tutorial/lab slots are usually fixed in semester 1, but from semester 2 some lecturers let you pick your own slot.
- A lucky slot pick can mean a day with just one class — or none at all.
- Sem 1 credit load is light (~13 credits); sem 2 jumps noticeably (~19 credits).
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Is Intelligence Computing a scheduled pack? I mean, are the lectures/classes going to be from morning till evening?
It's not as packed as matriculation usually you will have lectures, tutorial and lab sessions. Certain days maybe hectic tho
lectures are fix but you can select your tutorial/lab slots, usually year 1 sem 1 it's fixed but sem 2 certain lecturers will allow you to choose the slots. So depending on luck you may have a day with only 1 class or no class.
Oh... 1 year is 3 sem here
13 credits 🤔 (referring to sem 1 load)
Yes very chill, then sem 2 19 credits need divine intervention
Assessments & exams
Coursework breakdown, and what a "viva" actually is.
- Typical split: 2 midterm tests + 2 assignments (sometimes plus a presentation) = 50% coursework, 50% final exam.
- "Viva" = a live 1-on-1 (or small group) session with the lecturer where you explain and demo your code, then get asked to fix or modify something on the spot in the last ~10 minutes. Worth about 10% of the assignment. No viva in semester 1.
- Finals for programming subjects are handwritten by hand — only timed programming tests and midterms are computerized.
- Online tests require lockdown-browser software and physical attendance.
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Most courses usually have 2 midterm test, 2 assignments, maybe even a presentation — all these is 50% coursework mark and the other 50% is final exam.
How do we present the code
It's called a viva session. You and your group will have a 1 on 1 presentation with the lecturer, you have to explain your code and demo it live. Then in the last 10 minutes the lecturer may ask you to modify or fix something on the spot to see if you can do it.
Last time it was 3 people in a group. Most of us couldn't do the modification part but it's only 10% of the assignment so still can survive.
But sem1 will not involve the viva session so juz chill guyss
So we still need to writes the coding during finals ?
Yes manually. Only Times based programming and midterm test are computerized for coding.
you will also be required to download lockdown browser software to start the test and be physically present for online test.
Campus facilities
Where to hang out and eat around the CS school.
- The CS building has a student lounge, open weekdays 9am–5pm, with power extensions, cold AC (people nap there), and a pantry with a water filter.
- It even has a shower.
- Food inside USM is generally cheaper than outside, and most stalls take Touch 'n Go eWallet. Outside options mentioned: KFC, Mixue, Nasi Kandar Pelita, McDonald's, a food court.
- There's a food bank that restocks daily — but it's usually gone within a minute.
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Cs School has a student Lounge and a pantry with water filter too you can chill there in the AC too if you dont wanna go back to dorm
how crowded it is usually? like are there regulars?
Not too crowded. Basically a chill place to hang in between classes.
Undergraduate student Lounge open on Weekdays unless further announcements 9am-5pm
Cs school ironically has a shower
Is the food there expensive... or as usual? My aunties teases me saying I'm gonna suffer n starve to death
erm cheaper than most places — Usm food is generally cheaper
The food inside use are generally cheaper than outside and they all except touch n go ewallet. Outside USM is KFC, mixue, nasi kandar pelita, McDonald C food court. Impossible to starve in USM haha.
USM have food bank. Restock everyday too.
usually finish within 1 minute — the people are faster than people prompting ai for assignments due in 5 minutes
Fees & registration
Straight from Aqif's Bahasa Malaysia Q&A digest, plus a follow-up on payment timing.
- SelfUSM dashboard failing to load is usually just high traffic — keep retrying.
- Health form (Lampiran A): print and fill it in; the medical checkup itself can be done at USM later, no need to rush.
- Vehicle sticker: Pohon USM → check in Desasiswa → "bahagian wajib dicetak" (mandatory-print section).
- You do not need to pay fees ("yuran") before lapor diri — it can be paid any time before the semester ends.
- The fee-payment menu itself only opened on the portal from 20 August 2026.
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Q: i try utk buat yg sign up selfusm tu dekat dasboard identiti but die load and just tak keluar ape ii, its meant to do after tarikh lapor diri ke mcm mne?
A: it's probably the high network traffic. Just keep trying
Q: borang lampiran A yg kesihatan tu kan kena print and isi lepas buat medical checkup ke medical checkup tu buat kat usm je?
A: medical checkup yall can do at usm later dont worry. They will brief everything.
Q: yg pelekat kenderaan ni mne nak cari sbb mcm xde option je dekat website usm
A: Open pohon usm > check in desasiswa > bahagian wajib dicetak. Di situ ada pelekat yg boleh di print.
Q: mcm mana nk tau slip yuran tu dh keluar ke belum, and kena bayar yuran before lapor diri or macam mane?
A: yuran boleh dibayar sebelum tamat semester. Jadi don't worry you can enter first.
does anyone know the date to pay registration fee? i cant find the menu of fee right now
You got to wait until the 20th ya
On 20. Yup
Orientation week (MSL)
Wei Chuen's single message here is the most information-dense thing anyone posted in the whole chat.
- Register ("lapor diri") on your assigned date/time at your Desasiswa. Bring your offer letter, a photocopy of your IC, and other required documents.
- PPSL (Pemimpin Program Siswa Lestari) are your student facilitators for the week — they run activities and give you the schedule.
- Same day, after getting your room key, you can still go out with your parents to buy things — but you must be back by 5pm.
- From then on you can't leave campus at all until orientation week ends, even if orientation officially starts a couple of days after your lapor diri date.
- Ice-breaking activities happen that first night at your Desasiswa.
- Most sessions run at DTSP (Dewan Tunku Syed Putra), USM's largest hall — wake up around 5–6am, sessions can run to 8–9pm with meal breaks.
- One day is dedicated to your own school — meeting CS faculty and your academic advisor.
- One night includes a "jamuan" (buffet dinner) with your Desasiswa.
- After orientation ends you're free to leave; if you're not staying in the dorm, check out at your Desasiswa office.
- Need to leave for something urgent (e.g. an interview)? Tell your PPSL — they escalate to the Penggawa (head of Desasiswa), who gives you a form. Bring proof.
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hi theres some people including me still not in the clear about our registration and orientation day.. can anyone help me with this
Basically based on the date & time you get to lapor diri, you should be at USM to register at your respective Desasiswa. Remember to bring your offer letter and photocopy of ic and other relevant documents.
There will be PPSL (pemimpin program siswa Lestari). They are your students facilitators/guides to help you during registration and prepare activities for you throughout the orientation week.
After registration at Desasiswa and you got your room key you can move in to your room. The same day you can still go out to buy stuff with your parents during the day of Registration but should be back to dorm by 5pm that day, after that you are not allowed to leave until orientation week ends. There will be ice breaking activities that night too at your respective Desasiswa conducted by the PPSL.
Throughout the week starting on 21/9 your PPSL will bring you all to DTSP (Dewan Tunku Syed Putra) USM largest hall for talks/sessions throughout the week. You have to wake up early 5-6am and it can last until 8-9pm or later (you do have a lunch/dinner break in between sessions).
One of the orientation days your PPSL will bring you to your respective schools eg. the school of computer sciences where you will meet the CS faculty and your academic advisors and introduction to the course.
One of the nights you will also have a jamuan, buffet dinner together with your respective Desasiswa too.
After orientation week ends, you are free to leave USM whenever you want. For those not wanting to stay at dorm you can checkout of desa by going into your respective Desasiswa offices and filling up a form.
okay thanks for the information lovely senior
Also after you register at desa, any information please refer to your PPSL too as every year have certain changes, these are just experience from last year ya.
Can bring some biscuits and a powerbank along with u too, since the talks are quite boring and you'll be sitting there for almost the whole day. u can even challenge yourself to sleep during the talks, your PPSL will help you take some nice pictures and you might even appear on the IG posts.
hi, i have to attend an interview in the morning on 21/9, how will the process be if i want to go out during orientation week
You can just inform PPSL directly about the interview, and they will bring you to Penggawa (basically head of desasiswa). They will then provide you with a form to fill in. Just make sure to bring some proof/evidence with you.
Dorm & vehicle rules
Motorcycles, room fans, and how to survive a hot room.
- Motorcycles/bicycles: allowed for Year 1 without special permission — just don't park at staff parking or on the road, or Jabatan Keselamatan will fine you.
- Cars: need a parking sticker applied for at Jabatan Keselamatan, and stickers are limited.
- Bring a vehicle only after orientation (MSL) ends — you can't leave campus during orientation anyway.
- Room fans: small USB/hand fans are allowed; large or plug-in fans are not.
- East/west-facing rooms and top floors get much hotter, especially at sunrise/sunset. The corridor is usually cooler than the room at night.
- Cooling trick: wet a small cloth, wring it out well, and hang it in front of a USB clip fan for a cooler airflow.
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may I ask if we can bring motorcycle as a first year student? Do we need to get permission from any jk?
You can bring motorcycles/bicycles, aslong you don't park them at staff parking / by the road etc you won't be fine by the jabatan keselamatan. Only Cars are a bit hard and you will need to apply for a car sticker at USM jabatan keselamatan for a parking sticker and those are also limited.
Then, when can we bring them? Before MSL or after?
Best after MSL
You can't be going out during orientation at all
just wanna ask, am i allowed to bring fan inside my room? im not sure which campus allows it
Hand fan is allowed. But big fans are not allowed. But not the plug in one ya USB fan only
is the room hot even with the ceiling fan on or not hahahaha 🥲 worried i'll be sweating at night when i want to sleep
Depends on room and level, if your room window face east or west sunrise and sun set is very hot, especially those on the top floor even with curtains closed. At night usually the corridor is cooler than the room and it takes awhile for the room to be cooler.
it's really hot now actually you can try this — just wet a small cloth with water, squeeze it really well so no water drips into the fan motor or USB port, and hang it right in front of your clip fan. The air will feel much cooler, like a mini aircond.
Dress code & study materials
What to wear, and whether you need a laptop, tablet, or actual notebooks.
- Casual is fine day-to-day: plain t-shirt (no collar needed), long pants, covered shoes. No sleeveless tops or shorts. Formal attire is only for presentations.
- All notes and slides go up on elearn — most students read them on a tablet; pen-and-paper works too, and a file with fasteners + foolscap paper beats a bound notebook for flexibility.
- Assignments are typed and submitted as PDFs. Pen-and-paper is mainly needed for tests and finals.
- Laptop coolers/stands aren't practical in lecture halls (small tables) — keep them in your room. Labs and tutorial rooms are already cold enough.
- Lecture-hall sockets are limited — plan on your laptop covering 2–3 hours unplugged.
- A tablet is "nice to have," not a must — but a laptop is essential for assignments and projects either way.
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hi, nak tanya baju bebas atau smart casual untuk ke class
You can wear casual clothes, plain tshirt (no need collar) and long pants to class with covered shoes (sport shoes, sneakers etc). You only need to wear formal attire during presentations. Just do not wear sleeveless, shorts and you will be fine.
do we need to use laptop cooler/laptop stand during the class?
Nope, it's also not really advisable as the lecture tables are pretty small and a cooler would be quite bulky. For labs and tutorials the a/c is cool enough. you can keep the laptop cooler/stand in your room.
if I want to use laptop in the lecture hall is quite difficult... but there is no socket right?
my 16in laptop covers the whole table but still usable haha. That's why most students use tablets instead but laptops are still fine, just hold onto the folding table so it doesn't fall forward. There are a few [sockets] on the edges for the wall but not enough for everyone.
did cs student use ipad/tab a lot? or more to laptop jee?
For lecture notes and tutorials many students use a tablet for convenience compared to paper to review the material, but for assignments and projects a laptop is very much essential. So an ipad or tablet can be considered optional — nice to have but not a must have.
do we need buku nota, if yes how much book is needed, also do we have lecture notes and tutorial books?
Most students use a laptop/tablets like ipads with apps like good notes/notability etc for lectures, tutorials and lab materials as they are uploaded online in the elearn platform — but note books are fine too. I recommend files with fasteners and foolscap paper so you can keep adding on and rearrange the pages.
Assignments are also mostly typed and usually submitted in pdf form. The times you will be forced to use pen and paper is during test and finals.
Life after a CS degree
A quick reminder that "CS" doesn't only mean "developer."
- Beyond software developer: software tester/QA (finding and reporting bugs), software consultant (the business/marketing side of tech), and management (overseeing projects).
- Postgraduate study (Masters/PhD) can lead toward lecturing.
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Is the market for Sc still high 👀
There are multiple pathways not just a coding monkey. Other jobs like software consultants exist too. Besides software developer, there's also software tester (you focus on finding bugs and reporting them), software consultant (the business and marketing side), can also become management too overseeing projects instead.
Or u can extend your unemployment and go for postgraduate studies🌚
You can do that get a PhD and you're a lecturer now haha
Class snapshot
Two genuine in-chat polls, run by @imlwchuen on 18 August — actual numbers, not vibes.
Where is everyone from?
Poll capped at 12 options — Penang mainland vs. island sparked its own small debate right after.
Academic background coming in
@imlwchuen's take: "Most of you are probably from matriculation but USM intake is quite diverse nowadays."
Official links & dates
Everything factual that was buried inside CS Society / MPP broadcast posts, stripped of the banner graphics and hashtags.
| What | When / cost | Where |
|---|---|---|
| Offer acceptance portal | 15–23 Aug 2026, 5:00pm deadline | pohon.usm.my/portal/index.php/Hebahan |
| CS Startup Kit (PDF) | shared 17 Aug | tinyurl.com/CsStartupKit-20262027 |
| CS Society Q&A Padlet | ongoing | tinyurl.com/QnA-2627 |
| MSL T-shirt size form | fill ASAP — sizes are final, no exchanges | forms.gle/NR7fPsVFR7wuiZJ7A |
| CS Society Linktree | — | linktr.ee/cs_usm_ |
| GDGoC USM — Year 1 recruitment | register 28 Sep–13 Oct · interviews 16–18 Oct · results 21 Oct 2026 | Instagram @GDGoCUSM post |
| Rapid Penang campus booth | 21–25 Sep 2026, 8:30am–4:30pm | Exhibition space, Perpustakaan Hamzah Sendut 1 |
| Rapid Penang · Pas Mutiara | RM10, MyKad required, Malaysian citizens only | same booth |